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LICENSING AND REGULATORY SUB-COMMITTEE NO. 2

RECORD OF DECISION

(WHITE HORSE, 22 PILLORY STREET, NANTWICH)

8TH JUNE 2007

Present:                   

Councillor C Waling (Chair)

Councillors E Ankers and A Crawford

Advisory Officers: 

Ms R Allen                    Assistant Solicitor (Committee Advocate)

Mrs C M Jones              Democratic Services Committee Officer

Mr A C Lee                    Legal Adviser

In attendance:

Mr A Evans                  Counsel – representing The Spirit Group

Mr P Crosby                Assistant Manager – White Horse

Ms D McGill                Business Development Manager – The Spirit Group

Mr N Kelly                   Environmental Health

Ms S Edge                  Environmental Health

Mr Atkin                      Representing Mr Evans, an objector to the application

Mr D C Dickinson         Objector to the application

 

12        ELECTION OF CHAIR

RESOLVED:  That Councillor C Waling be elected Chair of the Sub-Committee.

                       

13        DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

No Member made any declaration of interest in the proceedings.

 

14        APPLICATION

The Sub-Committee considered the report of the Executive Director (Environment and Development) which provided details in respect of an application by The Spirit Group to vary the current premises licence in respect of the White Horse public house at 22 Pillory Street, Nantwich.

14.1         The application contained in the report proposed a variation to the wording of the condition “the beer garden/outdoor drinking area shall be closed to customers by 23.30 hours” as follows –

The beer garden/outdoor drinking area shall be closed to customers consuming alcohol and food by 23.30 hours.

14.2    The Legal Adviser outlined the application. It was noted that Environmental Health had raised objections to the application.

There had been representations received from occupants of properties in Barker Street and Love Lane all of whom had objected to the application on the basis of the potential for noise disturbance caused by patrons of the premises who would use the outside area late at night, if the application were granted.

The representations had been made under the licensing objective of prevention of public nuisance.

14.3    The Sub-Committee was invited to determine the application having regard to the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy and the four licensing objectives –

·         The prevention of crime and disorder

·         Public safety

·         The prevention of public nuisance

·         The protection of children from harm

14.4     Mr A Evans, on behalf of the applicant, presented the application.

The variation was being sought to enable customers to smoke outside at all times when the premises were open after the introduction of the smoke-free legislation on 1st July 2007.

The applicant’s view was that a high proportion of the White Horse patrons, in common with patrons of other public houses, were smokers and the proposals were a reasonable way of discouraging large numbers of smokers from congregating on the footway outside the front of the premises which would have implications for road safety.

Mr Evans tabled an annotated plan showing the outside area and the proposal to provide a small canopy for protection from the rain and a small heater; these measures were not intended to provide a comfortably lit area, which would encourage socialising, but were intended for smokers only.

In response to questions from the Committee Advocate and Mr N Kelly (Environmental Health), Mr Evans confirmed that there would be a limit of 20 persons who would be allowed into the beer garden, at any one time, after 11.30 pm and this would be enforced at the discretion of the staff on duty, possibly by use of a machine which would record the exit and entry of patrons. 

14.5     The applicant’s Counsel and the Assistant Manager were questioned by the Committee Advocate, the Legal Adviser, local residents and Members of the Sub-Committee, by way of clarification.

14.6     Objections

Mr Atkin (on behalf of Mr Evans, an objector) and Mr Dickinson, objected to the application and cited the following -

Ø       The extended hours would result in increased socialising in the “smoking area” with a resultant increased noise nuisance. 

Ø       There were domestic dwellings in close proximity, some of which overlooked the outside area, and any extension of hours would lead to excess noise into the early hours of the morning.

Ø       Likelihood for noise to be exacerbated as a result of the intoxication of some patrons.

Ø       The noise disturbance generated by the premises had been much-reduced since the introduction of controls brought about by the conditions attached to the premises licence under the Licensing Act and they expressed concern that the improvements would be lost if the condition were relaxed in the manner intended.

Mr Kelly (Environmental Health) gave evidence of his concern for the potential for increased noise disturbance in general, but also due to the break-out of sound from the single door of the premises which was used for access to the beer garden/outdoor drinking area. 

He drew attention to the potential for disturbance having regard to the close proximity of some domestic premises which overlooked the outdoor area.

14.7         Mr A Evans responded to the objections.

14.8         The Committee Advocate summarised the key points which had emerged during the hearing.

14.9    Mr A Evans summarised the application.

14.10  The Sub-Committee, together with the Legal Adviser, adjourned to             consider the application. 

14.11  Having reached a decision, the Sub-Committee re-convened the meeting and informed the applicant’s representative, and those present of its decision.

14.12  DECISION

RESOLVED:

That the application to vary the licence by the amendment of the condition which required closure of the beer garden/outdoor drinking area to customers by 23.30 hours to “closure of the area to customers consuming alcohol and food by 23.30 hours”  be refused.

14.13  REASONS FOR THE DECISION

The Sub-Committee was not satisfied that the residents of the neighbouring properties would be safeguarded from additional noise disturbance if the use of the beer garden/outdoor area was extended beyond the current time of 23.30 hours.  Accordingly, the application was refused on the ground of prevention of public nuisance.

The Sub-Committee took into account evidence given by the applicant that the smoking area within the beer garden would be restricted in size and limited to no more than 20 persons at a time, and the congestion and road safety issues which might ensue as a result of customers smoking on the footway in front of the premises if the application were refused. 

On balance, the Sub-Committee concluded that these considerations did not outweigh the reasons for the decision to refuse to grant the variation of the licence.

The Sub-Committee also took into account –

Ø             The Council’s Licensing Policy and the Licensing Objectives

Ø             The report of the Executive Director (Environment and Development)           summarising the application.

Ø             The application together with support given orally at the hearing.

Ø             The written representations from local residents and Environmental Health together with oral evidence at the hearing.

 

………………………………….Chair